I was SO desperate here I even say at the beginning that I really can't hold on any longer. Truly having to pee makes for the best wettings in my opinion, and that's what I strive for. These H&M pants are wonderful for showing my accident because they're worn in and soft, allowing the pee to penetrate deep. The pee that builds up and travels into the seam of the butt is my favorite. Such a good feeling to release and feel the warmth travel upwards (and every which way). Enjoy! xo