UPDATE: We understand that watermarks on vids are essential in helping you protect your content online, so watermarks with names and logos will still be permitted. Only watermarks linking to external websites are not permitted. Please note that the new rule regarding vids watermarked with external links will only be enforced on content uploaded after February 19, 2021. MV Stars will not be asked to change any content upload prior to this rule going into effect.
In addition to URL’s and links, we are also restricting direct mentions of certain platforms, which will help reduce risk exposure for the MV community on external sites.
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As we continue to make MV a safe space for all users, external links to other adult platforms will no longer be permitted. Unfortunately, we cannot risk hosting links to other websites that may not hold the same standards for trust and safety as we do. As social media platforms are designed to express yourself freely, MV Stars will still be able to link their social accounts to the MV Profiles.
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Hi MV, For over 2 years now my Angie Noir watermark has had ▶ my logo + ▶ name (overlaid) AND ▶ THREE site initials right under my name/logo ... 👉 MV C4S PH. 👉I do that because when someone steals a videos at least it show my more used official sites. IF I remove the three initials 👉 MV C4S PH then people would be inclined to "google" me and see dozens of sites where my content is stolen and free. 👉I am trying to direct them to at least 1 of my legitimate site such as yours/MV. ▶Is that ok since it is not a link?
Thank you and stay safe Angie
wow I'm just now seeing this. I don't look at blog posts cuz they're usually lame. But this is MAJOR when it comes to uploading. The proper way to get this news out would have been to email models. OR hey, this is a brilliant idea...have it on upload page when we upload like this: *hey btw make sure your watermarks are up to code* But hey that's the EASY way to let everyone know and god forbid we do anything THAT EASY
okay, I'll be busy adjusting all the videos I've uploaded since fucking Feb 19th!!!!
Unsure if this includes discussion of the TOS change, but there's been a meeting between the Adult Performance Artists Guild and Manyvids:
https://twitter.com/AmberlyPSO/status/1364986005435072518
Ok! thanks for the info, hope they work towards a better structure.
It was about other (bigger) issues that some stars have been dealing with... Bella French is supposed to come on MV LIVE one of these days to talk to us all, as a sort of brain storming so we can talk about our experiences on MV. I believe it would be benefitial for us all...
It probably would although it's hard to see how they walk back from years of breaking changes introduced haphazardly and promises about never censoring promotion that have turned out to be false. So a hostile environment with falling traffic, market saturation, legal and regulatory threats etc on top of that. It seems shocking as a customer.
Is anyone having issues uploading or viewing their store? Mine has been stuck on the loading page for days.
Just noticed that site has generally been slow loading things generally in the last days, but that's on the shopper side of things.
"In addition to URL’s and links, we are also restricting direct mentions of certain platforms"
So not just censoring links and penalising top sellers, you're attempting to control discussion now.
It's going to be difficult when the short form for 0nlyf4ns is "of" - it doesn't even work _on_ OF where dozens of words are blocked.
also why has there not been an email sent out for this major change in TOS ?
I know right! I found out about it from an engagement group!
Yeah! Pretty instant to adjust to.
Just a reminder that MV has a Platform Feedback Form. It may be a good idea to have a lot of us giving our opinion on this there in addition to just here on the thread:
https://forms.monday.com/forms/3a19ad3fcfa8fbc3c20137b37fd4f24a
Thanks!
What about watermarks to a content creator's personal sites?
When I contacted mv chat support they said that's NOT okay.
I'm so annoyed about it.. I watermark mine to my personal site because I upload my clips across various platforms. If my stuff gets pirated at least there's a singular place they can find my stuff (which links to MV ffs). If you just Google "Fuchsia Peach" you get flowers and dresses lol
Btw here's MV's feedback form https://forms.monday.com/forms/3a19ad3fcfa8fbc3c20137b37fd4f24a
Yeah I feel your pain... "Peter Romero" is a politician in South America.
How about a bigger percentage for creators to compensate the extra effort needed to re-render our content without our trademark/watermark?
Yes, and 80% payout on vid sales, and higher as is now on tips. Makes sense to get percentages on every sale as a site strategy, but creators should have a higher margin on what is sold, so there's more will to sell here.
Models that are reasonably outraged at MV's poorly veiled attempt to scorn OF plugging
:
I have started a new YouTube channel that talks about the nuances of Sex Work in a casual tone and in it I have a section called Sex Worker Spotlight. Message me and I'll be happy to feature you and plug your info.
In case you want to check it out ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC--AU7Qtu_fJVqubBYQMCtA ). The next episode comes out tomorrow
Fun!
Checking it out the channel!
This has nothing to do with protecting models and keeping us safe, this is about control and protecting your own wallet.
this...
A different thing, since many here mention that their traffic on this site does not motivate to put more time into MV with their content: I know it's going to get burried and it's already been said, but with how popluar OF style sites have become, a more prominent placement of MV CRUSH and more (marketing?) attention and tech updates for it from Many Vids would really help site traffic. It's great and I love it, but it's not the first thing someone coming to the site that wants to subscribe fast and easy will see and identify with MV in general. Maybe a direct MV Crush portal to it on the front page that makes it easier to navigate subscriptions without having to hit up profiles or go to your own profile first?
It's awesome that MV collects a lot of site types under one roof, just saying it should be easier for people that only want a easy access subscription to get to it <3
Well said. We all have so much content in our crush that goes unnoticed
Yeah shame, and it would be great to push what you all make and make it a more central as a site attractor.
Well, it seems I've been invited to the Xhamster creator program. Good bye, Manyvids.
Good luck 💕
Speaking as a customer only, I can definitely see why this change in policy will make the work for a lot of the content creatures here a lot more difficult and I agree with a lot of posts here, that the only believable reason why something like this got implemented, is the reason to discourage people to use other sites to make a livelihood.
Plus it's going to be fascinating to watch them try to censor or ban their top income earners, most of whom seem to use OnlyFans.
Implementing tech/site security in this way should have a positive sides for creators and be followed by other initiatives coming from MV, that balance the changes and gain sales and traffic. Because in addition to the time it takes to redo water markings, it's counterproductive for cross plattform sales and kind of isolating, etcetcetc, as everyone mentions here. What will be MV's the future strategy to counter this?
The strategy always seem to be promote and keep top sellers, but this attacks them too and won't.
Well yeah, true. Also that strategy is not enough, seeing how many creators are on the site that are not pulled along by the traffic that's generated by the more popular people and the existing promotions.
Often seems that there's a attention/sales bottleneck thing happening. If there are more creators on the site and MV will naturally attract more, then there needs to be a wider customer base as well, along with site presentation that leads to said content.
Everyone runs to OF!! Hint Hint lolol
Onlyfans actually works and creators make so much more money. It's the obvious choice. 😂❤️
I know that's my point 😉😉
It's a shame for a lot though, mv is my main workload, atleast I get traffic or no one could find me on OF 😩
Actually yeah! I was so mad yesterday I actually went and started uploading there!
Oh there's pocket stars too now!! 90% payout
Whaaaaaaat? You can’t promote your OF? Or anything anymore?
Not promoting your competitors - This I can agree with. But not trading traffic greatly DECREASES the incoming traffic from other sites. Should be a verified reciprocal link trade instead of a straight off BAN of outside URL's. Consumer traffic on Manyvids needs to be improved and organically in a circle not just static. Works for the review sites and TGP's why not here?
Is anyone really surprised? OnlyFans is taking over. 🙌🏼
So does that mean I shouldn't cross promote Manyvids on all my other sites? Guess I'll be busy removing my Manyvids links from other sites too
Very true. All sites offer referral links but yet we can not send them to fans 😅
I feel we should be pushing all this negative energy on the simps who are causing MV to have to do this in the first place. We as content creators are being attacked by 'activists' who blame our profession as the reason why there is CP. And have also somehow manipulated the big banks into believing so. That's where we should be fighting back.
i'm all for fighting against systemic anti-SW prejudices Darya. Fostering critical thinking and empathy is part of our broader duty as decent beings.
But MV absolutely doesn't have to do this, and they're lying about why they're doing it. Please scroll through the comments ... they explain why the change is nothing but a self-serving betrayal of MV's previous promise to sex workers.
That gaslighting on top of the harmful change is why 99.9% of us commenting here are so upset with ManyVids. We know better. There will always be puritan fools who want to demonize porn. Unfortunately, rather than uphold principles and promises, MV is increasingly trying to appease the unappeasable, to the detriment of sex workers. Or use that as the pretext for bad changes. When MV does a bad thing, lies about why and we say excuse me, wtf ... are we the cause of the "negative energy" or is MV? We all wanna be happy and horny. But freedom must be fought for.
It's sad that we have to fight MV for it.
How do we move forward when it's a battle inside a battle..
We could be so strong with a company like MV fully supporting us.
*hugs* i hear ya hun. i sincerely hope MV will have a change of heart.
Ultimately, i think a worker-owned cooperative is the solution. They are fairly common in some countries, and work very well. Capitalism says a richie at the top should own everything, have all the decision-making power, and dictate to all of you how things will be.
In a worker-owned coop ... you'd all collectively own it, and operate by consensus. Workplace democracy. And what's the alternative? Being subject to Bella's whims? That isn't working out so well.
No we can't, that's the reason they folded. MV is tiny and not too powerful.
Oooh, that's what's going on? Well, that makes sense then. MV's having to play nice to stop itself being black-listed by CC companies, and getting attention from the misguided SJW's, who know's what kind of pressure is being put on them. They certainly can't afford to loose their payment providers if they are putting the squeeze on them. I'm not about to believe that MV is just doing it to close outgoing traffic though, like others are suggesting. This move doesn't benefit MV, it won't increase profits, it'll just annoy their loyal content creators.
Indeed, Candy. It's already making a lot of us reluctant to transact here. Hardly a good basis for profits. But the real problem is that MV refuses be honest with us.
Remember when MV went on a kink-banning spree not so long ago? Unlike some platforms that were forced to ban legal things, MV didn't say: "Hey everyone, the credit card processors are requiring this. It sucks and it's stupid. It's unfair and if it was up to us, we wouldn't do it. But we need CC processing, so that's why we're doing it." No, MV said nothing like that. Instead, they acted like a bunch of perfectly legal kinks between consenting adults ... were inherently immoral. They kink-shamed legal behaviour between consenting adults. That was a choice MV made. The WRONG choice.
Bottom line: MV used to have the back of sex workers. Folks felt supported and empowered here. That has increasingly changed for the worse ... and every plastic, PR-crafted lie they post to the contrary feels like endless salt in the wound.
Well fucking said!
Yeah, MV should adapt and update their ecosystem and communications regarding it. When they put out something like this, there needs to be a recoup and different motivations for creators along with it, because this puts a unneeded strain on everyone.
What a shame.. I'm usually very much for MV and everything they do for the models but I can't help but feel a little disappointed in this move.. come on MV, you're better than this
So how am I supposed to go about getting my customers to support me in my other projects if I can't watermark my own website?
Are MV going to implement new functional features like sexting volleys or allow me to keep 100% of my income like I do on my own site?
MV sales account for only 1% of my income... At this point staying with MV seems like a waste of my effort and time
Phew! It’s good to read we don’t have to re render previously uploaded vids with watermarks with links. Just thought of going through all that hassle was stressful. Really enjoyed using MV social to promote all my platforms and loved to trade tips or votes for links to my OnlyFans or other sites. it’s a shame but will have to think of other rewards to give. Working on a new design for my watermark which will be coming shortly xoxo
with high credentials and i feel safe knowing that my content is protected and that my costumers can trust im not going to swindle them, if you link your stuff to another site cant any one just go to that site, and manyvids could be liable for bad service, in addition using your pay pal venmo or what ever is UNSAFE (all of you should be paying your taxes), and if you get caught using these payment methods your bank account could be frozen, come on guys , giving out everything for 1 dollar is not helping anyone its hurting girls trying to make money , i mean selling video for 1 dollar for 100 of them, were all gonna be in the poor house.... thanks MANYVIDS For keeping high standards! ive already had to slash my prices to keep up with 1 dollar onlyfans..... ( THANKYOU MANYVIDS!!)
There's always a bootlicker ("yaaaay, less freedom!") who doesn't understand what's happening, gushes on about completely unrelated issues, smears sex workers ... and is so embarrassingly wrong when they briefly touch on the actual concern, it boggles the mind. Exhibit A, folks.
"if you link your stuff to another site cant any one just go to that site, and manyvids could be liable for bad service" (facepalm to infinity) ...... no. No. MV cannot be liable for the allegedly "bad service" or content of other sites. Ever. And sharing links here to other sites doesn't change that. Is Google liable for the service and content of every website it links to? Of course not, nor should it be. Please don't be preposterous.
99.9% of the creators and customers who posted here despise what MV is doing. Re-read the comments. MV is removing an important freedom that it had boasted would never vanish ... and is lying about why, for self-serving reasons.
THIS!!!
Indeed, grandpaChainSmokes. It’s not as if MV don’t know how this kind of stuff works or didn’t have a disclaimer in place already. From the current Terms For Users & Members updated in January 2020: info.manyvids.com/home/terms-users-members :
“Uploaders may provide external hyperlinks to promote their Content, including without limitation ads or promotions, to other sites or platforms operated by third parties terminate. MV has no control over such websites and is not responsible for their content, privacy policies, or for the collection, use or disclosure of any information those sites may collect. The presence of a link to a third-party site does not constitute or imply MV’s endorsement, sponsorship, or recommendation of the third party or of the content, products, or services contained on, or available through, the third-party site. If you choose to access any third-party site, you do so at your own risk.”
Hoisted by their own petard, Ahnubis! Because of course. They're so busy ignoring us and pretending that this train wreck hasn't completely backfired on them, that MV still hasn't checked their own info, before the announcement or since. Very professional.
At the end of the day, they can change Terms and make MV as strict and unfair a place as they want. But we remember what they previously promised. We recognize their self-serving lies ... and we see the negative impacts that sex workers are facing.
It comes down to this: why does MV exist? WE are the ones who really built this place ... content creators and buyers. We know MV can be much better for us. Negative changes can be undone. That's why we're speaking up. *hugs*
In the long run, i would like MV to become a worker-owned cooperative. They're common in some countries, and work well. Instead of one richie with capital dictating to all of you how things will be, MV could be ruled by consensus. Power to the people! ♥
second post of yours that is spot on! You are hired as my new reality check lawyer or spokesperson. I just responded in a similar way but my post was DELETED! HA! CENSORSHIP!!! On a porn site!
I Think Its A Wonderful Idea, linking your videos to other sites is kinda silly, they give you a section in your about me to promote your other sites, in addition when someone buys a video on your manyvids page and it links to a site your just giving away for a dollar or free it really dosent help anyone, giving away lots of free content only hurts sex workers and gives freebies in unsaturated markets, no wonder no one can make money, this is a verified site(Manyvids)
saturated*
The section in your About Me to link to other sites has been removed to make our profiles fit with this policy (go see for yourself). Not all of us have a $1 or free OnlyFans we're promoting, and even if a model *does* have that sort of things on offer, it should be *their choice* whether or not they promote it on content they produce that they own the copyright to. It's not our place (or ManyVid's place) to police what creators can put on their own content, and it actually goes against what MV has stood for/said in the past about how supportive they are for models and their rights to advertise all of their content.
I'd have to edit and render a separate video just for MV because you don't want me advertising myself in my own videos? Not worth it. A lot of models will leave and I'll be one of them if this atrocious policy stays
Hey Bella, stop playing with your Wigs and actually START doing something for your people! Your ship is sinking! Look at all the feedback! Wasn't MV "freedom" to sex workers?
Also its really sad to see a company that is so fucused on ultimatley eliminating competition but fail to realise the people it hurts is the content creators making all the money for the site. You dont outclass your competition by implementing policys that hurt your only source of income. You outclass your competition by providing services and freedoms your competition wont. We all know MV has a long burning hatred for OnlyFans I agree with them on that but dont stupe to their level and disguise it as "Saftey and Trust"
LMFAO this is actually hilarious. What happened to "MV will ALWAYS allow creators to link to other sites, we welcome competition"
you guys are clowns.
For anyone seeing the comments this article doesnt mention anything about posting your usernames to other services it only says using links to other sites
Yet again, this smacks of MV making huge changes and giving us no warning, but instead selling it as something positive, It is like MV speaks like it is selling timeshare holidays!
Are you serious? I know several people who used your platform to promote their content (from several sites) because it was a safe place to do so... Now you're pushing us to only be able to promote on social media where the risk of getting our account banned is high, just look at instagram...
This is just incredibly unfair...
I agree with this 1000%
True, but yet they all say we can refer them how? where? 😂 Insta and twitter 🙄 paying people are on the sites already not sat watching Insta 😳
Between this watermark change, the lack of initiative to make MV Live safer against hate speech towards cam models and members and taking away bonuses, MV has become all about MV and $$, and nothing about the creators or members. It’s sad to see MV claim they are all for the MV community when in reality it is for only itself.
You're messing up, Manyvids. You're building a walled garden. Creators need freedom, not a prison.
The beauty of porn is the ability to make money from different sources like PH, XV, XH, OF, MV, etc and creating a stream of traffic using all sites.
OF is clearly the big cash cow for many creators like myself. If I can't put my username on my videos, I will simply stop uploading content on here. Sorry.
Yea this is bullshit. Way to show how much you "care" about the people who make your site successful
Yeah, no, I have a standard watermark I put on all of my videos that links here, to my main camming profile, and Twitter. Essentially, you're asking me to render every video twice, and upload a different version here, which takes double the time and effort for a website that isn't anywhere near being my main income? No thanks, I'll pass - I'll leave my old stuff up and maybe it'll sell once in a while, but there's no way I'm putting in the effort to put my new vids on here. And I'll be taking my ManyVids link off of my existing watermark in the future, instead of the one to my camming profile, because I'm not going to promote your website if this is how you're going to run things.
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wow FUCK you guys.
Are you f
ing kidding me
What in the name of fuckery is this
nope, not ok. not cool, going back on things you said years ago at the worst possible time.
Just came here to show my strong dislike for this new UNNOTICED change, telling me what to do IN MY videos. This does NOT make me feel safe, free or willing to show my passions, but rather STRESSED and OPPRESSED. MV losing me... PS: You should look up what's required to be an ecosystem.
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It's very obvious this policy has been rushed through without consideration to your most valuable partners, your freelance content creators.
While making a change to what has been a longstanding policy is up to you, certainly it seems unfair notice has been given and you're forcing people to have to do a significant amount of rework to comply with your policy, so either spend the time reworking their clips, or not upload them; either way they're losing revenue at what is the worst possible time in the last 30 if not 100 years.
And then there's your customers; those that pay you money. And if your content creators are telling me they're not uploading content to your site anymore, then I also am in the position to have to evaluate spending money on your site too.
Hopefully you're able to digest this feedback you've seen today and reconsider this.
🙏🏻🙏🏻
I hope MV take the time to read all the comments below so they get a better understanding as to why their community is understandably distressed and upset by their recent changes. With multiple lockdowns due to covid, more people spending time at home, I would assume their revenue would have increased, but with MV putting so many of their own restrictions on the site and essentially locking us in, this is bound to push both creators and loyal consumers away to other sites regardless. Such a shame as I only joined last year and I love the platform, and despite the actions MV are taking I'll stick around but begrudgingly
With all the feedback posted on the problems this causes, can this safety system be updated, so there is not a additional insecurity coming from it with everything already going on?
Updates on tech and verification are needed , yes, but as everyone knows, SW's are already at the mercy of malinformed decisions of other platforms that lead to no good progress.
MV has the chance to do better and with getting bigger the site needs to be bigger in adapting to the needs of it's people too!
Specially since this is a revolving business model between creators and the distribution and not a one sided thing. As it has been said here by the performers, if you find better possibilites to grow and integrate needed changes so they work for the sex workers first and the site with it, that would keep you in a thriving spot, no matter how large you grow.
Not saying that's easy, but you got this.
always worse and worse!
Is Twitter and Reddit also not allowed..?
This is disappointing. F*cking hate capitalistic greed. I hope for one day a SW community owned platform with zero CEOs. Capitalism breeds destruction, and I'm sure that enough SWs will be fed up enough that there will be destruction.
i'm with you, Alena!! As a bare minimum, i would love MV (or barring that, a new site like it) to become a worker-owned cooperative. They're common in some countries, and work well. Instead of one richie with capital dictating to all of you how things will be, you have rule by consensus. Power to the people! ♥
First payouts cost money and now even this?? Whata wrong with manyvids! This WAS my favorite website 😢
This is absolutely terrible and extremely unprofessional in the delayed notification of your content creators. It shows a lack of consideration or respect for our time and efforts. I recently added this platform to my repertoire but I will gladly leave if this isn’t rectified. There is no point in this action and seems, ultimately, greedy. Please revise your action before destroying several relationships you’ve built on this site.
In my intro of each a video is a link to pornhub (ONLY IN THE INTRO!). Does that mean I have do delete every video?
Upto yesterday no.
This pretty much sucks. There's been a lot of changes recently that are pushing more and more creators off of the platform. There's no reason for me to take an extra hour or two to export a video when this is my weakest selling site.
Couldn’t agree more.
Ive been consistently loosing revenue on this site year after year. With this newest change youre going to be pushing more veteran models off your platform. Good luck.
Thank you for the clarification !
Not a good move!
This is disappointing. It's not worth uploading for me if I have to export a unique version of all my clips and previews every time.
Exactly. 100%.
100% agree
Do y'all remember how in 2017 you said content creators would always be able to link wherever we wanted? 😢
Right? Just pushing content creators away even more....
Why are you trying to appease the anti-porn campaigners and the puritanical CCcompanies any further?? They will never be satisfied. Are you really going to go through and start actively taking down all "hardcore bondage" sex vids? I dont understand why you made that push to attract kink content all that while back when you wont even let people get penetrated with their arms and legs bound.
It may be their credit card processors -- eg https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/03/payment-processors-are-still-policing-your-sex-life and shit like that's common.
It absolutely is, it always has been. What MV and other clipsites do is rely on community reporting. Most members don't know/care what the content is, and they aren't going to report what they're buying unless its something truly objectionable. What im worried about is MV doubling down on wanting to follow policy to again appease the puritanical CC companies and this "trust and safety" center is going to actively scrub our videos. This is why I dont make bondage sex vids because its so awkward to free a leg just to fuck sigh
As a member: So many of the changes to MV over the past year(s) have been awful, amplified by the way they get rolled out. So many of positives trying to cover up drastically negative changes.
With no longer permitting external links you are trying to lock people into staying here, instead of incentivizing and having people want to be here. MV Stars and members leave for other sites for a lot of reasons, but most I've seen are because usability on MV is poor (social, crush, live beta) and the previously poor payouts (still looking at you contest votes and video purchases). Members will follow the people they like to other platforms. If you wanted people to stay on MV then make the site better; i.e. commit to making and communicating improvements to MV Live Beta and take it out of "beta" after more than 2 years.
MV could be the first place people go to find adult content creators, get their content, and build new connections. Instead, members will go to other sites first to find creators and ALL that they have to offer.
Isn't this like... The only company still taking 40% per sale on vids?
It's sooo 2006
I believe if ManyVids got rid of the catorgys for the best mv kink, fetish, etc then they'd easily be able to pay out 80% on vid sales and still sip their expensive alcohol.
MV is all about the top models. They make the most money so they aren't even arsed about having 40% took away from them, they still make so much money. Yet again, it all comes down to the most weathly.
One day someone will set up a better company and so be it or maybe online porn is coming to its final years for all sites. Its only made the dirtiest more wealthy in many ways. I guess MV wanted to be different but they've shown us. They're just the same. Money hungry and just here to benefit from the work others do. Yet we gain so little. Yes we could use other sites but ManyVids is dominant in this industry it has big exposure so we are led to believe. Maybe they could do more. Maybe it would make them the best company. But for now. The ship is sailing into an ice burg
Is it big exposure? 89000 model accounts but most of them are abandoned.
Agreed. I think if members and stars accounts where removed when inactive we would have far less class as 'active'
However people say all these sites I thought payout was same on pornhub ect if not worse?
What happened to "Manyvids will ALWAYS allow our MV Stars to promote and post direct links to wherever they wish" ??
The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
Oof Kryten... that hurt in my soul
I think I'll just put my time and energy into other sites. And I suspect this policy is only going to encourage others to do the same.
This. This, MV. i feel the same; wish i didn't, but i do. And most people who move on won't bother to tell you. They'll just move on. Do you really want the common word-of-mouth about you to be "stay away"?
The Zuckerberg mindset will not serve you, Bella. Yes, big stars have left before in protest. And you blithely ignored it in your ivory tower. But since then, the world has changed. Everything has changed. MV has changed. Setting fire to the goodwill and efforts of creators and customers alike, on the basis of a ridiculous pretext ... is a senseless waste. Don't be surprised if you get burned.
The competition is getting more fierce the porn industry is operated and owned by fat cats. They can only be fat cats if they keep the custom. By this they block out other sites, the promotion goes down, so does the models money. Freedom is being sucked away. Covid has created pure sadism amougst the most weathly.
OnlyFans was the first to do this by blocking out ManyVids paypal cash App etc
These companies own us
The digital world knows it all but it wants even more from us
MV, you are just SINKING AND SINKING!!!! Of coarse, like you all gave ur stars 80% payout on MV Live, you all needed to take away something, you always do! SMH for a ecosystem site that "cares".
UPDATE: We understand that watermarks on vids are essential in helping you protect your content online, so watermarks with names and logos will still be permitted. Only watermarks linking to external websites are not permitted. Please note that the new rule regarding vids watermarked with external links will only be enforced on content uploaded after February 19, 2021. MV Stars will not be asked to change any content upload prior to this rule going into effect.
Thanks for replying ... well, that's something. You might've said so in the first place. But letting external link watermarks remain in countless scores of existing videos, proves you don't really believe there's a liability or "trust and safety" issue.
In any case: your ban on external links from this point on (be they in video watermarks or profiles, etc etc) is unnecessary - nonsensical - and degrades the value of MV for content creators. You're not making things easier; you're making them harder, at a particularly difficult time. The entire policy should be undone.
Platforms cannot be liable for content on another platform, ever - let alone because someone sent a link to that platform. By your logic, Microsoft is legally liable for the content of any website someone links to in a Hotmail email. Do you see how ridiculous that is? Scrap this, please. You're driving us away at a time when disposable income is already rarer.
Re-read the comments. This is about more than watermarks.
Then it's pointless. Leaving existing content up doesn't reduce your liability if someone had a link at the beginning of their videos to their personal adult site that turned out to be hosting illegal content, and emphasizes that this is just a cash grab and about deterring competition.
Hi MV, For over 2 years now my Angie Noir watermark has had my logo & name AND *3* site initials right under my name/logo ... 👉 MV C4S PH. 👉I do that because when someone steals a videos at least it show my more used official sites. IF I remove them; then people would be inclined to "google" me and see dozens of sites where my content is stolen and free. 👉I am trying to direct them to at least 1 of my legitimate site such as yours/MV. Is that ok since it is not a link? Thank you Angie
I'm fairly new to MV, so far it seems like they have been very vague in some of the recent policy changes they have made causing confusion, risking accounts and content to possibly be deleted. What other websites, do you guys recommend? Thank you all.
Onlyfans it seems. Manyvids is a sinking ship.
First the social media platforms are becoming more strict about self promotion of adult work, but ManyVids “new improvements “ make it twice as hard for content creators to promote they’re work now too for their other platforms???
When I first joined ManyVids, I picked this platform because the founder made it so that other adult creators can express their work openly while promoting their other platforms being one of them.
I understand you want to increase security for everyone here and I applaud that.
But, It’s hard to promote them on social media where we actually interact with people to get noticed, now with you following that example, how will we recover???
It’s just a little disappointing!
Does this mean that we all need to go through our past MV Social posts and delete any of them that include links or?
I don’t think they mean no water marks. I think they mean no watermarks that point to external urls or describe them. Unless I’m missing a section I read. That portion regarding watermarks seems to be under the section called “external links”. Manyvids. Please clarify
Hey MV, I think there needs to be more clarification on this. As a content creator, I feel extremely uncomfortable selling content that isn't watermarked. Surely we're still allowed to link to our OWN site (ex: SelenaRyanTV.com)? Its very concerning because I love MV, but I don't have versions of my content WITHOUT a watermark (why would I?), so it would basically be like starting over. I'm sure there's a reason for this, but please reconsider this policy, love you guys! xoxo
Not from that they've said. How many producers are going to bother to create separate versions of videos just because Manyvids want to act like children and take their ball back?
Sooo.. re-watermark 689 videos plus whatever is in MV social by when? Or what, they're all deleted? By WHEN?? What does this mean? I can't edit and re-upload 689 videos. Not interested. No thanks. I'll just start over I guess, or leave the site.
Very disappointed Manyvids. I was really gaining speed on here and happy that a company worked so well for me. This makes me re think if I want to promote this clip store as much as IWC or C4S .
Not allowing our own watermarks on our own copyrighted content? F**k that! I will take my business elsewhere if that's the case. How ridiculous. Bad mistake. Ya'll need to rethink this, seriously
Is this a joke? We watermark our content for our safety because there is absolutely no one sits that can protect our content. So is our content just going to be deleted? This is a freaking joke.
Models surely can’t be expected to go through hundreds of videos that are watermarked and remove them, what if we don’t have original versions? How are we meant to keep ourselves safe when running DCMAs when our content is leaked.
As for external links, then is mv social now useless?
What happened to being fucking ethical. Did y'all forget thats your slogan or what?
This. A million times, this.
I like that you guys are doing something to help make the site safer and making it harder for predators to use this site....
but I’d don’t see how disallowing trusted links, but still allowing social media links, will help!! Most of the illegal porn uploaded to the internet exists on social media sites!!!
And no watermarking!? That is one the only ways we can protect and identify our content when it gets pirated!! So does my watermark on vids of my domain name (Adalynnx.com) that I own, which directs back to MV... is that allowed????? Are you saying i need to re-edit all my 300+ vids and change the freaking watermark?!?! Wholly cow man
the teaaa in the comments
What will happen to girls like myself who have over 700 videos with watermarks? Will you just delete our content, is this a policy only for future clips? We need more information.
You were the first person that came to my mind when i saw this BS, Jess. *hugs* i really hope MV will have the grace to quickly say "We hear you - we meant well, but realize now that it wasn't the right call. We're undoing this change."
Anyone can dig their heels in, MV. It takes courage to listen to the people who generate your value, and admit you were wrong. And we want to like you. It'd be a lot easier if you'd stop fighting us, and stop taking away feature after feature that drew us here in the first place.
I don't know about anyone else but I don't have the time to sit here & re edit & re upload hundreds of videos so.... NOT happy.
Bella talked about how when she first started the platform she use to manually send out individual videos, and manyvids was created to make her/our jobs easier not harder. So if they take away something they should really consider countering it with a new tool. For example the co-model agreements, we should be able to put in another performers name, have it sent to them to sign, and returned back to us and MV all digitally. If you are banning external links (including watermarks) add an editing feature for us to do it easily. If you're no longer support a file type, allow us to convert it on your site. or allow us to private some content until we can do it.
If ManyVids is going to require us to NOT have watermarking on OUR videos linking to our personal websites, you have just limited a way in which we can control our own content, and the ways that our content is distributed. This makes it harder for us to pursue copyright claims against people who upload our content - After downloading off of YOUR site - To other platforms without our consent.
And that is the literal antithesis of what you've been telling us was the goal of ManyVids from day one.
For the love of God, please stop calling yourselves an "'ecosystem". It sounds so crazy and out there! It's driving me nuts, but it's also hilariously funny at the same time!
BOO!!
MV in a few years, at this rate:
"From now on, all payouts will be delivered in MV Cash™ -- which can only be used with verified businesses that hold the same standards for trust and safety as we do. Unfortunately, we cannot risk delivering payouts in normal currency. Because what if you used your earnings for drugs, or terrorism? Ensuring payouts are only spent on the goods and services pre-approved by us = safety. Apply for your reloadable MV Cash™ card today!"
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DestinyDiaz and many others commenting here are correct. MV's habit of making sudden, radical changes without consultation or warning -- that leave creators scrambling and stressed -- is not OK.
MV's implied concern is also nonsense. The internet would completely cease to function if platforms were liable for the content of other sites and platforms that users link to. Five seconds with the ACLU would make that clear.
But pretending otherwise is a great way to grease the path for censorship and authoritarian control. To smear smaller competitors as "unsafe" -- and add to the horrific argument against the free and open internet (that any "unverified" anonymity online is harmful). Beyond itself, MV should not be the self-appointed arbiter of "verifying" any site's "trust and safety". There is an inherent financial conflict of interest -- and at best, a shocking ignorance of how internet liability works. (2/2)
LMAO! Good one![:]](https://cdn3.manyvids.com/site_files/images/manymotes-v2/emoji/Layer8.svg)
Truth
Real talk. Its nice to FINALLY see a member speaking up for us on the site abhorrent behavior
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"MV's habit of making sudden, radical changes without consultation or warning -- that leave creators scrambling and stressed -- is not OK"
And you know they've done it for years, just not regularly with this level of stupidity. Modern watermarks are URLs. People won't create completely separate versions of content for one site, and re-encoding videos would mean that Manyvids ends up with the shit lower quality versions anyway.
Instead of banning all links MV should have a link verification system for a models personal websites, OF etc. and a warning before redirecting to external sites.
Agreed.
This right here
I appreciate you need to make changes due to other things happening within our industry and wanting to protect models further but I don’t see how not allowing links to external sites will help to protect us? So we are still allowed external links to social media platforms but not to other adult sites? This was the one thing that differentiated you from other platform and it’s a shame to see you take this away from us. I feel like there are so many aspects of mv that could be improved for models such as MV live moving from beta and a better system for mv crush like the option to SCHEDULE POSTS and members being able to scroll though our crush content easier. So many things have been taken away from us models by MV such as MV mag, mv starlight and mv tube. I will always love mv as it has allowed me to have the freedom and flexibility I have today but I really want to see some changes that are more beneficial for all creators on the site!
Yess
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This ^
All of this.
Everything you said, Brea - 100% agreed ♥
Well said!
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Couldn't agree more
A lot of really mad people here that only used MV to advertise on. I never really understood why they let everyone link to other sites that is bad business practice for sure. Anyone who is mad about that go buy some Ad space and see what MV has been giving everyone for free. MV you truly are the best platform keep up the good work.
This is SO much more important than the constant harassment I get from sellers on this site who somehow find my name and then send uncensored content daily without consent.
Instead of all of these weird policies that hurt your sellers, why not actually do something that helps everyone? A link to an outside side does not harm you, and if that was truly your concern, you could set up a warning page that tells people they are navigating away from MV. Why does MV think we are all morons?
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The biggest problem I have is with the fact you don't allow a watermark in the videos now. A lot of us have very full profiles with over 100+ videos, and these aren't instant changes. Why weren't we at the very least given a reasonable time (A week, two weeks, something at all?) to comply? I'm disappointed that I have a whole profile to figure out what to do with immediately.
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Woah this is so sudden, and I hope there is an understanding and grace period, since there is years of content on this platform. 🙏 we are told that we are business partners and and then things start changing and we are left to scramble. I understand that flexibility and adaptability are needed to evolve, but I wish more of a warning was given. Like when the change in supported file types happened and some people (myself included had to covert a bunch of content). It was so wonderful to cross promote here, Ill miss it but can there be more clarity on what we can link. Like is allmylinks allowed ? What about watermarks on existing content. Or past social posts and DMs. How will this be monitored?
The whole concept of MV social was to provide sex workers with an alternative to our regular socials becausen of our shadow bans etc now we are censored in our safe place. It sucks because i really stood behind MV Social and now it's not what I said it was, ya know 😔
I wish there was a video editor feature that came out with this announcement. That way performers had an easier way to fix their watermarks on their content.
Once big studios were able to join, the direction of the site became pretty clear. A lot of sites, MV included, have started disproportionately favoring celebs and influencers over SWs with on and off site marketing.
This!!
What happened to you guys?!
Seriously... You used to be the one and only site us models felt safe and supported on, key words "used to"
Seems now you're doing everything you can to destroy your platform!
Agreed!
So does this mean most producers will need to take down their videos to re-watermark them? I know MOST of the watermarked videos on here do not link only to Manyvids alone. Usually, the watermark will link back to the model's main website or some kind of directory (with their other websites listed as well). I'm REALLY hoping not, because if that happens I will not be re-editing all of my content which means I will be forced to leave the MV platform. A real shame.
That’s horrible news
Boooo
I can't say that I'm a fan of this change. MV has yet AGAIN sprang a new update to their site without even warning their models first. In my opinion this is what needs to change.
Smh
ADMIT IT MV, you are just scared for your mv stars to promote other sites and gain more money over there than here, which I hope cuz you all are very unfair with your people, and hope models dont have their eggs in 1 basket! There is better payout sites out there, work for those who DO CARE!
My thoughts exactly!
"Unfortunately, we cannot risk hosting links to other websites that may not hold the same standards for trust and safety as we do."
By that non-logic you wouldn't allow links to any social media platform. From a customer perspective this seems to be far more about reducing competition. If it's payment processors making you do it, just say so.
LOL true
We are ALL FREE to say our opinions, and this is mine, MV has changeeee ALOT since I joined in 2017, dont get me wrong, I have met the most wonderful people, MV Members, Team & MV Stars, and will always be grateful for you all, but MV now a days has changed alot, I know with all the PH situation, I knew clip sites where gonna change as well, but not allowing us to advertise other platforms links is UNFAIR, wasn't MV Social created for us to BE FREE and promote what we wanted? Myself im so shadowbanned on social medias, in fear my accounts will get deleted soon, now this, oh and also a big hit to many with the new direct deposit fees. What is next? Hope you all consider this and let US Sex Workers be FREE, like you all once posted : ManyVids Protects the Freedom Of Sex Workers!!!
I'm am very upset to hear this news. I was glad that ManyVids was so open to their competition and allowed each model to have all their links available. I am quite disappointed in this decision.
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MV lookin like the Comcast guy from that South Park episode.
LMAO!!! Accurate AF!
"Is there Social Media where my adult creative content WILL NOT be censored? - YES! We’re happy you asked! ManyVids integrates our own social media service, MV Social, that offers many of the same functionalities as the other social media platforms that you love without the added stress of being censored! To be successful on ManyVids you definitely want to use MV Social to the max and don’t fret! Last Modified on 09/28/2020 11:11 am EDT" https://mv-support.knowledgeowl.com/help/is-there-social-media-where-my-adult-creative-content-will-not-be-censored - So, we can still use external links on our MV Social then, by your standards?
Very upset to hear this news! First taking away bonuses for members from Live, and now this? One of the best parts about manyvids was that you guys allowed us to promote our other sites...it’s been one of the best ways to get others to join , this is NOT good news
I don’t think I’ve seen one positive word about this change, and you said in the past you’d never do this...what changed? Are you going to be removing the links option from ‘about me’ as well then?
WOW! You already did it. This is an awful change that will only hurt your models livelihood. Cant wait to see this get reversed!
this is hidden in all the text: "External Links
To support our efforts to make MV a safe space for all users, external links / URL text and watermarks / text links in vids to other adult platforms are not permitted. ManyVids cannot risk hosting links to other websites that may not hold the same standards for Trust & Safety as we do. As social media platforms are designed for self-expression, MV Stars are permitted to link their social accounts to the MV Profiles."
So what is making you make us remove external site links? One of the best parts about you was allowing us to post links to our other platforms. Previously you stated you understand that the success of a model's career wasn't on just one site and that when all sites do well then it's more likely we can stay and continue to use MV. Please inform us of WHY you changed that. I am sure we would all appreciate it. As someone who uses 10+ different sites to make incomes, it helped being able to talk about it because not everything is on MV. I don't cam here, not enough traffic. So I can't advertise my camming anymore? I still tell people to buy here because it's a higher %... Please tell us why. What is so unsafe about other verified adult sites? I think it would be better to make a public statement instead of asking all of us to privately message you about it.
"What is so unsafe about other verified adult sites? I" First of all i think your answer is obvious why in the world would i allow you to post a competitor site and loose income? Verified adult sites? by who? the site itself? You are putting manyvids in a fiduciary legal position where god forbid that site wasn't verified and manyvids said it was LAWSUITS. O and btw you don't like there rules? Stop complaining go make your own site. You people want everything handed to you. manyvids owes you nothing, you also need to understand your not that important there are millions of others like you. Instead of complaining take ownership of your business and find a way to make it happen. O and btw another thing about veified....do you realize how easy it is to fake and say something is verified and in reality it isnt'.
Do you know how easily i can create a site and get a certificate of verification.........No you dont and i dont blame you 99i percent of poeple dont because your not tech savey. I agree with manyvids 100 percent you cant expect them to independently verify sites it is to risky.
they literally put out a statement a few years ago that they wouldn't ever restrict advertising your other platforms... so yea, it's bullshit. BTW it's not a matter of not being tech savvy (really?) vs having the resources to create a site that pulls the traffic of larger companies...
Exactly, moonlitfox. Hey marin31337: when you learn how to use punctuation, show some civility and spell words like savvy, we can talk. Arwin's questions are perfectly valid; dismissing her out of hand with the old "love it or leave it" routine is ridiculous. Questioning and/or criticizing things does not mean you should shut up and leave the country, or start your own political party (or massive online platform) from scratch.
We like it here. We've put time and effort into growing this platform. Without creators and their content, ManyVids has nothing. Creators like Arwin should have the MOST input into what goes on here, not the least. Re-read her post; she was extremely reasonable, and explained why she's asking what she is.
Hey marin, sounds like this is kind of none of your business to begin with, dude.
+1 got heem
YES! This platform is running off of what the creators are looking for in order to thrive! This was well said; we should all have our voices heard after all of our hard work here.
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Awesome job MV
I wonder what the recent events are that prompted this??
The entire PH fiasco started it all. If you're unaware of what's been going on, Google PH Investigation and everything should come up
i do not agree with child porn sex trafficking or anythign that is not conceptual by both parties. Now i said that because this is where you poeple are going to think with emotion and not logic. GDP fiasco is a joke. First of all if your stupid enough to film a sex tape in this day of age do you really think that shit is NOT going to get on the internet?and they sued for 40mil seriously those girls are likes 20s they will never even make a mil in there lifetime they have no reputation and damages? last time i check job interviews dont ask if you have done a sextape witht hat being said we have a bigger issue exploiting people for there money which is harming more people then you think
If I'm not mistaken, isn't this basically the TOS dumbed down? Minus with the change of us not being allowed to post links to other sites now. I was expecting this to be some sort of forum or something for models (maybe members too?) with it being called a "center".
Indeed, Cattie ... i thought the same as you did, and was surprised to see the "center" is nothing but a wordier page saying exactly what this blog post says. Kinda redundant. But then MV has a history of overhyping things.
The important bit, the sudden rule change, is obviously a reaction (or overreaction) to what happened to Pornhub. And look, i get MV wanting to protect itself. But if a link to an external site actually poses a liability risk to MV (which it absolutely shouldn't ~ the internet would completely cease to function if liability worked in such a ridiculous way) ... then i don't see how linking to social media accounts wouldn't pose the exact same level of "risk".
i note that MV is even banning watermarks in existing videos to other sites. Good Lord. This could conceivably get years and years of perfectly legal work banned here. MV should have a talk with someone at the ACLU, and give this a rethink. At a bare minimum, it should provide a lot more clarity.
Either they have terrible legal advice or it's a bizarre plot to alienate even top models and studios. Everyone watermarks with URLs.
Wait, so does that mean we cannot advertise our snap anymore as a texting option? Or say video calls? I’m confused on to what the no external links would apply to? Like AVN STARS? Just don’t want to break any rules.
I would assume AVN, OF, etc would be off limits but, Snapchat being a "social media" platform should be ok. I do think a list of allowed sites/apps would help us to better understand the new change so, we're not all hounding support.
I hope snap would be allowed and yes a list would be extremely helpful
"As we continue to make MV a safe space for all users, external links to other adult platforms will no longer be permitted. Unfortunately, we cannot risk hosting links to other websites that may not hold the same standards for trust and safety as we do."
That's translated to "we want every customer to stay on MV and spend all their money on MV and nowhere else. What a joke. This needs to be reverted immediately.
They do seem to have gone off the deep end don't they? And by leaving tens if not hundreds of thousands of videos up that include website URLs they can't even claim it's for safety. But they can't insist that people change hundreds of thousands of videos, and most of the models have left anyway, and so would the remaining big ones if they each had to edit and upload 1000+ videos again.
In politics this is called an omnishambles.
Much love for ManyVids! I love using this platform and will continue to for a long time. Thank you for all that you do for the community and keeping us thriving!
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So cool
Thank you for always keeping us safe!! you guys are soo amazing MV is my favorite site!